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What's So WRONG With the Catholic Church?

(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.��) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 05:35:33 GMT

On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 11:15:02 -0500,
Earl Webr ("duke") wrote:
> "W.T.S." wrote:

[ ... ]

>> Why should anyone follow the teaching of a
>> false person?

> We see truth where you elect to see lies.

If so, that is HIS choice, obnoxious busybody!

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The art of critical thinking — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 23:29:06 GMT

On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 15:07:58 +1000, "The art of critical thinking"
wrote:

>"duke" wrote in message
>news:l13786hvs6i6nuljmqcit5rra243t1l21d@********.. .

>> 52,000,000 in the US since Roe v Wade because of people like you.
>In each case it was the women's choice.
>But according to the Guttmacher institute study and other data, up until the
>mid 1800's abortions were obtainable safely and legally through mainly
>herbal methods.
>And it was accepted by both the church and the state.

NO, the Christian Church never accepted murder. It's contrary to the
teaching of Jesus Christ.

>Abortions became properly legal in 1973 and the number of women having
>abortions slowly started trickling down.

52,000,000 vs the coat hanger?? Shirley you jest.

>In the period when abortions were not legal its estimated that over 1.5
>million women died from botched abortions. In these cases the child usually
>died too.
>Then come up with a better solution, like birth control or education for
>example.
>>>If at least those requirements are not met then the child is going to
>>>suffer
>>>and/or it will become a delinquent / criminal / drug addict later in life.
>>>Its your kind of reckless and blinkered thinking that ruins society.
>>
>> Or an abortion supporter.
>Weak response ignored.

But you have yet to offer anything at all.

>>>You are referring to biological life only.
>> Wow, you think?
>Is that all you think life is? How materialistic and narrow.
>But why place all value on a pre-born and none once its born?
>This shows the unbalanced and simplistic mentality of the religious
>believer.

You must live on the moon.

>>>There are two definitions of life here - life (small l), and a Life
>>>(capital
>>>l).
>>>Does a fetus have a Life? Has it made a life for itself? Is it a citizen?
>>>Has it got an education? Has it made friends? Has it travelled abroad?
>>>No, it doesn't have a Life. Unless its parents have a plan for it, it
>>>will
>>>probably only have a living hell because of neglect. Abortion is more
>>>humane.
>> "A" life is a chosen life style. It's is not the basis for human life.
>What is the basis for human life then?

To serve God.

>> A decent woman wouldn't kill her own unborn baby for such a selfish
>> reason.

>Yep, you've never spoken to one alright, which makes you unqualified to
>debate.

You offer nothing to debate. The eternal demise of all who participate in
or approve of abortions for mommie's comfort and convenience will spend all
eternity in the fires of hell.

My memories of working with Patrick Humphrey:

james g. keegan jr. — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:22:58 GMT

In article
<6dce2cf6-df03-4c49-9933-4c861c5b77e8@a19g2000vbi.************.com>,
pnyikos wrote:

> On Sep 3, 10:14*pm, "james g. keegan jr." set
> follow-ups to misc.test [deleted] and *****fan.keegan [archived, cannot
> be posted to], and wrote:
> > In article ,
> > *ri...@truthseekers.orc. (rickshaw maynard) wrote:
> >
> > > My memories of working with Patrick Humphrey:
> >
> > another creep who lusts for patrick.
>
> That hoary old taunt shouldn't fool anyone

the plagiarizing professor demonstrates his beliefs in "do what I say,
not what I do," again

How the Roman Catholic Church Kills and Maims

Less religion, more light — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 22:12:27 GMT

"Patrick" wrote in message
news:j_edned0DdUO7RzRnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@posted.local net...
>
> "Less religion, more light" wrote in message
> news:i5rp74$b96$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>> All arguments from the religious right are extremist and ludicrous.
>> That much is agreed upon by all educated and thinking people.
>
> When you can't discuss the issues, you throw insults.
> I understand.
> It is typical of you atheist loozers.

I in no way insulted you.

What I said is true, but your mind is religiously affected.

An eco-terrorist by any other name...

elizabeth — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 18:10:34 GMT

On Sep 2, 5:38*pm, pnyikos wrote:
> Remember the Unabomber? \\

Yup. He was, like the real Peter Nykios, a mathematician.

Rutherford Institute Urges Stringent Health and SafetyRegulations for Abortion Clinics

Spartakus — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:46:53 GMT

"John Whitehead" wrote:

> Citing Risks to Women, Rutherford Institute Urges Gov. McDonnell to
> Implement Stringent Health and Safety Regulations for Abortion Clinics
>
> 9/2/10 for immediate release
>
> RICHMOND, Va. - Pointing out that many centers in which first trimester
> abortions are performed are treated as regular doctors' offices and are not
> subject to even basic licensing requirements, The Rutherford Institute is
> urging Governor Bob McDonnell (R-VA) to implement more stringent health
> and safety regulations for abortion clinics.

What risks? A 1st-trimester abortion is just about the safest
outpatient surgery around, including many cosmetic surgeries. And
abortion at all stages of pregnancy is far safer than giving birth.

[followups directed to abortion newsgroups]

Rutherford Institute Urges Stringent Health and Safety Regulations for Abortion Clinics

RichL — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:22:52 GMT

On Sep 4, 9:28*am, "RichL" wrote:
> "Spender" wrote in message
>
> news:jt5486hnenk9pu55k2sqhshf2doqrl5665@news.easyn ews.com...
>
> > The states files murder charges, you idiot.
>
> Precisely!!
>
> Given that obvious fact, abortion CANNOT be murder since abortion is legal
> and no state could possibly file murder charges for an abortion in view of
> the law.
And even when abortion is illegal, it's never been murder in any legal
code or under common law.

From Progressive Europe: British Social Services Pays ForProstitutes And Lap Dancing

Butch Malahide — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:35:31 GMT

On Sep 2, 1:05*am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> James A. Donald * wrote:
>
> > "Mike Schilling"
> >> Not very good at long division, are you?
>
> >Number of White non hispanic conventional home purchase loans in 2006
>
> Number of white applications
> Recieved: 7,098,858
> Denied: 1,123,066
> Rate of denial: 16%
>
> Number of Hispanic applications
> Recieved: 1,649,003
> Denied: 384,641
> Rate of denial: 23%
>
> >Clearly showing affirmative action -

It's hard to see what significance the denial rates could have. If you
want to know which group is getting preferential treatment, compare
the default rates. A group which has a significantly lower default
rate is being discriminated against. I have no idea what those rates
are, or where you'd look them up; it's not something I'm interested
in, just trying to help. By the way, it's "received."

Abortion hurts Social Security.

Less religion, more light — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 02:14:02 GMT

wrote in message
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>

Religion has hurt the whole of society far more than abortion ever could
have.

Let the Man Head the Household

Christopher A. Lee — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:42:05 GMT

On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 08:30:11 -0700 (PDT), Jimbo
wrote:

>I think we will pretty much continue to do things our way despite the
>meanderings of men in black dresses.

Sounds like a transvestite sci-fi comedy!

California Assembly dress code for women means business

DanielSan — Sun, 29 Aug 2010 20:57:18 GMT

On 8/29/2010 3:16 PM, J Young wrote:
> "DanielSan" wrote in message
> news:R5OdnRS5ZdUqVOfRnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> On 8/29/2010 1:52 PM, J Young wrote:
>>> Let's be honest here;
>>
>> Trying something new?
>>
>>> even if all the credentials are exactly the same, no
>>> one will take a woman seriously if she's dressed suggestively as they
>>> would
>>> if she presents herself as a lady. Who would you take more seriously
>>> when
>>> discussing business affairs, Hilary Clinton or Paris Hilton?
>>
>> One has more business knowledge than the other. Style of dress does not
>> equal knowledge.
>>
>> I was talking to a man in a suit that thought the Earth was flat.
>> The other man I was talking to was dressed a stereotypical goth, jet black
>> hair, black lipstick, black nail polish, shiny black trenchcoat, his ears
>> had extra-wide holes in them from a long time of stretching them out, and
>> a chain going from his nose to the hole in his ear. He said the world was
>> round.
>>
>> The goth guy has more knowledge than the main in the suit.
>>
>
>
>
> I didn't write that the more conservatively, better dressed woman *was* more
> intelligent; I wrote that the former gives *the appearance* of being
> smarter, therefrore is taken more seriously.
>
> You atheists have a away of twisting the facts I present.

No. I don't take anyone according to how they're dressed. How they're
dressed is irrelevant.

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"The Old Testament is responsible for more atheism, agnosticism,
disbelief-call it what you will-than any book ever written; it has
emptied more churches than all the counterattractions of cinema, motor
bicycle and golf course." -- a.a. milne

What's So Great About Catholic Church?

Sjouke Burry — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:10:25 GMT

livvy wrote:
> On Aug 27, 5:55 pm, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

> What? You have no regard for Catholocism.....that's fine. Why
> can't you ignore it and move along? Please? Spanish Inquisition
> references are getting really old....ignore Catholic. Be
> free.....have no regard for a thing Catholic....move along... you'll
> be fine, as shall Catholics. You got a problem with Catholocism,
> act like a grown up, and say it . Linky references and the
> historical ****......educated people know this junk. You got
> something to say, as an educated grown up, say it. All's you got is
> links....grow up, shut up
Yeah, let them rape another batch of children,
Netherlands(small country) abuse complaints up to
600.(how many wont dare to complain.??)

Billboard Campaign to Focus on Abortions on Blacks in Texas

Conan the bacterium — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:50:58 GMT

"SkyEyes" skrev i meddelelsen
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On Aug 27, 7:06 pm, "J Young" wrote:
> "Conan the bacterium" wrote in
> messagenews:5a74fbc3-f77b-435d-97ff-5d073d39c6ea@k17g2000prf.************.com...
>
> > On Aug 27, 3:55 pm, "J Young" wrote:
> > > The effects of abortion on the black community has been devastating,
> > > especially in the state of Texas. The 'Lone Star' state is home to
> > > some
> > > of
> > > America's worst racists, who use abortion as a means of population
> > > control
> > > upon it's black residents. I hope everyone with an ounce of decency in
> > > Texas
> > > gives their full support to the billboard campaign.
> > Well, it's about time! All those videos of
> > robed Planned Parenthood vigilantes
> > riding up to cabins in the middle of the
> > night and dragging poor screaming black women
> > out for forced abortions was making my
> > country a pariah in the world community.

"SkyEyes" wrote:

>
> I don't know anything about these videos you mention , but I do know this
> fact: In Texas, abortions on black women comprise nearly 25% of all state
> abortions even though they only constitute 12.7% of the female population
> (ages 15-44). Every other racial demographic shares a smaller percentage
> of
> statewide abortions than their respective percentage of total population.
> Perhaps you can offer a more realistic reason for this?

I have done so before, Jerk Young: the black community *everywhere*
is under-served medically *across the board*. Of course, this
includes ob/gyn services, the gateway to effective birth control (most
of which must be gotten from a doctor or by prescription). Therefore,
black women suffer a higher number of unwanted pregnancies, and as a
consequence, a higher number of abortions.

Nobody is perpetrating "genocide" against blacks or any other racial
group. Stop trying to fight abortion by perpetuating that lie.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net

thomas p wrote:

Also seeing this exceptionally nasty little racist pretending to be
concerned about the welfare of Blacks is literally nauseating.

Addressing Abortion From a "Positive Angle"

DanielSan — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:25:45 GMT

On 8/27/2010 5:22 AM, Patrick wrote:
> "W.T.S." wrote ...
>>> barker_pb@erinot.com says...
>>> "W.T.S." wrote
>>>
>>>> The RCC is killing and maiming millions by opposing stem cell research.
>>>> The RCC has no basis to oppose stem cell research except for its sick,
>>>> degenerate teachings. A fertilized egg in a dish is not a human. A
>>>> fertilized egg in a dish is less than a hangnail.
>>>
>>> Prove it.
>>> I need verifiable sources.
>>
>> Try a microscope.
>
> Now you want ME to prove your theory?
> Yeah, that is all about how you work, isn't it?
>
>
>> If you need "verifiable" sources to prove a
>> fertilized egg isn't a human, you're hopeless. The blueprints for a
>> home aren't a home, neither are the tools that make the home, nor the
>> timber or building supplies, nor fixtures until they've all be put
>> together in final form.
>> I hope you're praying that there is no God. If there is, you'll be
>> afflicted with a slow, wasting illness that stem cells would've cured.
>> Science, good. Religion, bad.
>
> Don't even go there. I am a cancer survivor of 13 years now.
> Science is good. Research is good. Growing fetuses in order to
> kill them and use their stem cells... is not so good.

Thankfully, no one is growing fetuses in order to kill them and use
their stem cells.

--
DanielSan -- *****atheism #2226
------------------------------
"The Old Testament is responsible for more atheism, agnosticism,
disbelief-call it what you will-than any book ever written; it has
emptied more churches than all the counterattractions of cinema, motor
bicycle and golf course." -- a.a. milne

Federal Court Rules in Favor of Religious Freedoms

default — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:09:10 GMT

On Aug 27, 3:09*am, default wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:39:47 -0400, "J Young"
>
> wrote:
> >The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 on Monday that World Vision,
> >a faith-based relief organization, was free to hire and terminate based on a
> >statement of faith. The case has been closely watched by religious
> >organizations and nonprofits who receive federal funding.
>
> That is NOT in favor of religious freedom. *It may be in favor of A
> religion or of corporate power, but not religious freedom.

It upheld the right of freedom to associate based on religious
beliefs. I'm not certain the decision would have been the same if the
former employees were gay and fired because of it. Why that be a
victory for gay freedom but not religious freedom?